Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Tue, 12 March 2019 20:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients
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On 3/12/2019 12:56 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>> As Stephane wrote, that may be legit in some circumstances, but much
>> more questionable in others, such as a hotel Wi-Fi attempting to decide
>> what sites I could or could not access. It really is a tussle.
> i don't like the chinese government's rules for the great firewall. so, i keep 
> my visits to that otherwise-great country short. this hurts me, and maybe 
> hurts them also. but, it's their country, and i will obey their laws when i am 
> using their network. and then i'll vote with my feet, to get to a better 
> network with better rules. i once traveled to HK for a weekend between two 
> week-long conferences behind the GFW, just so i could get work done.


There is a lot of difference between what can be imposed in a police
state and what looks legitimate in a user agreement in a free country.
And I sure hope that we maintain that difference. A good result of that
discussion would be to clarify these differences. For example, there are
legal differences between what can be done in a private home, and what
can be done in a place like a hotel that provides public accommodation.
Just like hotels cannot discriminate against some categories of
customers, I don't think that places providing public connectivity
should be able to discriminate against content accessed by their guests.

-- Christian Huitema