Re: [DNSOP] ALT-TLD and (insecure) delgations.
Ólafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> Mon, 06 February 2017 15:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] ALT-TLD and (insecure) delgations.
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Ralph, A WG can come to a consensus on a topic without all information available. Now go back and see if reality changes consensus. Just my .02 cents. Ólafur On February 6, 2017 9:52:53 AM CST, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Ólafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> >wrote: >> >> Ted, >> >> What RFC are you referring to? >> >> Why do you think .ARPA is for services? >> It's for infrastructure and homenet wants to join the infrastructure. >> >> It is waste of time arguing if name A or B is better take the one you >can get faster. > >The WG has considered the alternatives, and WG consensus is to specify >".homenet" > >- Ralph > >> >> Ólafur >> >> >>> On February 5, 2017 10:22:35 PM CST, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> >wrote: >>> The working group has consensus to give it a try. We may change our >minds of it takes too long, but it seems worth exploring from a process >perspective anyway. >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2017 11:18 PM, "John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>>>> I'm pretty sure I've explained it enough times on this mailing >list and in >>>>> the relevant documents by now. If you don't agree, maybe we should >just >>>>> accept that. If you don't remember the explanation, it's in the >homenet >>>>> naming architecture doc I wrote. >>>> >>>> Well, OK, I took another look, and from what I can see, it's a >belief that people will find toaster.homenet.arpa harder or more >confusing to type than toaster.homenet. >>>> >>>> Just out of curiosity, how long is it worth waiting to get .homenet >rather than .homenet.arpa? If it took five more years, which at the >current rate seems optimistic, would homenet still be relevant? >>>> >>>> R's, >>>> John >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> _______________________________________________ >> DNSOP mailing list >> DNSOP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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