Re: [DNSOP] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error-14

Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Fri, 17 April 2020 21:56 UTC

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From: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
To: Eric Orth <ericorth@google.com>
Cc: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>, Catherine Meadows <catherine.meadows@nrl.navy.mil>, last-call@ietf.org, dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error.all@ietf.org, secdir@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error-14
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Eric Orth <ericorth@google.com> writes:

> I have similar objections to this as the similar language that was in the draft
> before it was changed to the "MUST continue to follow" language referenced
> above.
> 
> Anything similar to "MUST NOT alter ... processing" is vague over what
> constitutes an alteration to the processing.  I think everybody would agree
> that you should be able to log EDEs, so it must be unambiguous that doing so is
> allowed.  Lots of discretionary room for implementers (especially stub
> implementers) to do various things with an EDE while still following the specs
> on the important handling of the RCODE as the primary error code.
>  
> 

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the (again) well thought out comments.  Do you have a counter
proposal sentence?


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