Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt
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On 09/12/2016 11:57 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF. > > Title : The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain > Authors : Warren Kumari > Andrew Sullivan > Filename : draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2016-09-12 > > Abstract: > This document reserves a string (ALT) to be used as a TLD label in > non-DNS contexts or for names that have no meaning in a global > context. It also provides advice and guidance to developers > developing alternate namespaces. > Finally I read this draft after I realized the presence of this "or" in "... in non-DNS contexts *or* for names that have no meaning in a global context." I must apologize for staying on https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-dnsop-alt-tld-04 and not reading anymore of this draft, as it was explicitly stating the following: "The ALT label MAY be used in any domain name as a pseudo-TLD to signify that this is an alternate (non-DNS) namespace." And: "Currently deployed projects and protocols that are using pseudo-TLDs (for example, the ".onion" pseudo-TLD (and other labels in [I-D.grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names]) are encouraged but not required to move under the ALT TLD. Rather, the ALT TLD is being reserved so that future projects of a similar nature have a designated place to create alternate resolution namespaces that will not conflict with the regular DNS context." Yet, this explicit recognition of existing name requests for P2P systems was removed from the next draft on, and is obviously absent from the current draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt, which implicitly declares the special-use names of P2P systems as falling under .ALT. Since this draft is reserving the .ALT TLD using RFC6761, and there's an ongoing discussion about this RFC to figure out a proper way to use it, update it, or dismiss it, I find the situation unacceptable. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it really seems to me that this is the case, and that the .ALT draft, which wasn't meant to threaten the history of the P2P names, indeed became a way to easily dismiss any further discussion about them. Regards, == hk
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… George Michaelson
- [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.t… internet-drafts
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Patrik Fältström