Re: [DNSOP] A nudge on the new terms in draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

Ralph Droms <> Thu, 09 February 2017 13:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] A nudge on the new terms in draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
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Paul - I finished my review of the terminology doc; added 1 issue today.

- Ralph

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Paul Hoffman <> wrote:
> [[ Hopefully the WG can focus on multiple topics at once; this one has an effect on the upcoming interim WG meeting. ]]
> [[ We got a few responses to our earlier message about the new terms in draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-04, but would certainly like to hear more. From our earlier message: ]]
> The authors have tentatively made some substantial changes to the draft, to define "domain name", "global DNS", and "private DNS" in a manner that can be used by other work in the IETF, particularly around RFC 6761. Our first cut of definitions are in the new draft, but we fully expect significant discussion in the WG before there is even rough consensus. We are not even sure that the WG will agree with the idea of adding "global DNS" and "private DNS" to the document. The authors are not even sure they agree with all of this.
> At the same time, we think that it would be easier to track open issues in our GitHub repo at rather than in the document as comments. To be clear, the discussion of how issues are to be resolved should be mostly done on the mailing list, but using GitHub to track issues might give easier-to-follow history of the discussions. We also are open to using GitHub for pull requests for specific changes to the document.
> As a final note, this version of the draft also has some changes not related to the above, and we encourage review of those changes, plus anything else in the draft, of course.
> --Paul Hoffman
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:08, wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF.
>>        Title           : DNS Terminology
>>        Authors         : Paul Hoffman
>>                          Andrew Sullivan
>>                          Kazunori Fujiwara
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-04.txt
>> 	Pages           : 34
>> 	Date            : 2017-01-27
>> Abstract:
>>   The DNS is defined in literally dozens of different RFCs.  The
>>   terminology used by implementers and developers of DNS protocols, and
>>   by operators of DNS systems, has sometimes changed in the decades
>>   since the DNS was first defined.  This document gives current
>>   definitions for many of the terms used in the DNS in a single
>>   document.
>>   This document will be the successor to RFC 7719.
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
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