Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03.txt

[Petr Špaček <[e-mail]>]

On 21.3.2017 13:23, Ralph Droms wrote:
> Petr, thanks for your review and feedback...
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Petr Špaček <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> On 14.3.2017 12:28, Ralph Droms wrote:
>>> draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03 includes revised text to address issues raised during the WG last call and other editorial improvements.  The list of issues, discussion and resolution are in GitHub: https://github.com/Abhayakara/draft-tldr-sutld-ps
>>>
>>> There is one substantial addition to the list of problems in section 3: the use of DNSSEC with Special-Use Domain Names.
>>
>> The 03 version is a very good one.
>>
>> I would like to comment on one side-effect of the changes:
>> The Summary section was removed and the text moved elsewhere. IMHO this
>> makes the document less understandable to a person who was not involved
>> with its development.
>>
>> For this reason I propose new Summary section, which would be basically
>> current 4.1.4.  Liaison Statement on Technical Use of Domain Names.
>>
>> The reference to these two I-Ds can be at the same place as current 4.1.4.
>>
>>
>> So the new text would look like:
>>
>> 4.1.4.  Expired Internet Drafts Relating to SUDN
>>   /links to/
>>   [I-D.chapin-additional-reserved-tlds]
>>   [I-D.grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names]
>>
>> 6. Summary
>>   As a result of processing requests to add names to the Special-Use
>>   Domain Name registry, as documented in
>>   [I-D.chapin-additional-reserved-tlds] and
>>   [I-D.grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names], the IAB initiated a review
>>   of the process defined in RFC 6761 for adding names to the registry.
>>   This review was identified as in the charter of the IETF DNSOP
>>   working group, and the review has been conducted in that working
>>   group.  The Liaison Statement [SDO-IAB-ICANN-LS] notified ICANN of
>>   the review, affirmed that the discussion would be "open and
>>   transparent to participation by interested parties" and explicitly
>>   invited members of the ICANN community to participate.
>>   This document is a product of the IETF DNSOP working group review of
>>   the registry process in RFC 6761.
>>
>>
>> I believe that original 4.1.4 nicely summarizes what this document is about.
> 
> I agree that some of the text belongs in a more prominent place, to alert the reader to the process behind the document.  I've opened an issue: draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03
> 
> Our proposed solution is to move some of the detail behind this document from section 4.1.4 to the Introduction.
> 
> OLD:
> 
> 1.  Introduction
> 
>    [...]
> 
>    Special-Use Domain Names [RFC6761] created an IANA registry for
>    Special-Use Domain Names [SDO-IANA-SUDR], defined policies for adding
>    to the registry, and made some suggestions about how those policies
>    might be implemented.  Since the publication of RFC 6761, the IETF
>    has been asked to designate several new Special-Use Domain Names in
>    this registry.  During the evaluation process for these Special-Use
>    Domain Names, the IETF encountered several different sorts of issues.
>    Because of this, the IETF has decided to investigate the problem and
>    decide if and how the RFC 6761 process can be improved, or whether it
>    should be deprecated.
> 
> NEW:
> 
> 1.  Introduction
> 
>    [...]
> 
>    Special-Use Domain Names [RFC6761] created an IANA registry for
>    Special-Use Domain Names [SDO-IANA-SUDR], defined policies for adding
>    to the registry, and made some suggestions about how those policies
>    might be implemented.  Since the publication of RFC 6761, the IETF
>    has been asked to designate several new Special-Use Domain Names in
>    this registry.  During the evaluation process for these Special-Use
>    Domain Names, the IETF encountered several different sorts of issues.
>    Because of this, the IETF has decided to investigate the problem and
>    decide if and how the RFC 6761 process can be improved, or whether it
>    should be deprecated.  The IETF DSNOP working group charter was
>    extended to include conducting a review of the process for adding
>    names to the registry that is defined in RFC 6761. This document is a
>    product of that review.
> 
> OLD:
> 
> 4.1.4.  Liaison Statement on Technical Use of Domain Names
> 
>    As a result of processing requests to add names to the Special-Use
>    Domain Name registry, as documented in
>    [I-D.chapin-additional-reserved-tlds] and
>    [I-D.grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names], the IAB initiated a review
>    of the process defined in RFC 6761 for adding names to the registry.
>    This review was identified as in the charter of the IETF DNSOP
>    working group, and the review has been conducted in that working
>    group.  The Liaison Statement [SDO-IAB-ICANN-LS] notified ICANN of
>    the review, affirmed that the discussion would be "open and
>    transparent to participation by interested parties" and explicitly
>    invited members of the ICANN community to participate.
> 
>    This document is a product of the IETF DNSOP working group review of
>    the registry process in RFC 6761.
> 
> NEW:
> 
> 4.1.4.  Liaison Statement on Technical Use of Domain Names
> 
>    As a result of processing requests to add names to the Special-Use
>    Domain Name registry, as documented in
>    [I-D.chapin-additional-reserved-tlds] and
>    [I-D.grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names], a review was chartered
>    of the process defined in RFC 6761 for adding names to the registry
>    (as explained earlier).  The Liaison Statement [SDO-IAB-ICANN-LS]
>    notified ICANN of the review, affirmed that the discussion would be
>    "open and transparent to participation by interested parties" and
>    explicitly invited members of the ICANN community to participate.
> 
> - Ralph

Sounds good to me, thank you!

Petr Špaček  @  CZ.NIC

>>> In the authors' opinion, draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03 addresses all of the WG last call issues and the document is ready to be forwarded to the IESG.
>>>
>>> - Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 3:26 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>>> This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF.
>>>>
>>>>       Title           : Special-Use Domain Names Problem Statement
>>>>       Authors         : Ted Lemon
>>>>                         Ralph Droms
>>>>                         Warren Kumari
>>>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03.txt
>>>> 	Pages           : 27
>>>> 	Date            : 2017-03-13
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>  The Special-Use Domain Names IANA registry policy defined in RFC 6761
>>>>  has been shown through experience to present unanticipated
>>>>  challenges.  This memo presents a list, intended to be comprehensive,
>>>>  of the problems that have been identified.  In addition it reviews
>>>>  the history of Domain Names and summarizes current IETF publications
>>>>  and some publications from other organizations relating to Special-
>>>>  Use Domain Names.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps/
>>>>
>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03
>>>>
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps-03
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>>
>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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Petr Špaček  @  CZ.NIC