Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry
Philip Homburg <pch-dnsop-1@u-1.phicoh.com> Fri, 23 September 2016 13:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry
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>This writing is in reaction to a rather limited set of participants in the disc >ussions on the topic. Maybe that is appropriate, maybe that is a reflection th >at the DNSOP WG is not the best place to cover this topic. That is not an insu >lt because there's a significant difference between the function of registratio >n (of anything) and the function of the DNS system. Those two topics are often > confused and I think that is happening again. > >If it seems that there is limited discussion during this two-week period and th >e consensus is that this is not a topic for the WG, I think that it is understa >ndable. Although many in DNSOP WG have expertise for this, the roster of other > work represents "time better spent" means that this work could be pushed off t >he table. However, the discussion ought to be resumed somewhere else. I think > that the Special Use Domain Name registry is needed but as it is currently def >ined, inadequate. I think draft-tldr-sutld-ps describes only the tip of an iceberg: o There is strong resistance within the IETF to assigning names to things outside of the DNS, for a variety of reasons: * Requires a mechanism for identifying which of a set of resolution processes is required in order to resolve a particular name. [...] * The semantics of alternative resolution protocols may differ from the DNS protocol; DNS has the concept of RRtypes; other protocols may not support RRtypes, or may support some entirely different data structuring mechanism. We have no architecture how to deal with radically different naming systems that share a single name space. Certainly .onion uses completely different concepts than are used in DNS. This is a technical question that in my opinion the IETF should address. One extreme is to have no technical requirements. Anything that can benefit from a piece of the global name space can apply. The other extreme would be to require that such a system is on the outside similar to DNS, i.e. support the equivalent of AAAA, MX, etc. lookups. For example, is .onion as described in RFC 7686 from a technical point of view what we want or not. If the outcome of such a discussion would be to have no technical requirements on alternative naming systems, then it makes more sense to have the name community create a policy for such registrations and limit IETF activity to specifications that are strongly interconnected with internet standards, such as .ipv4only.arpa
- [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] More on Special Use Domain Registry George Michaelson