Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.

Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl> Wed, 07 February 2018 11:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] A conversational description of sentinel.
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On 07/02/2018 10:12, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fine. Now we need to have something actionable, e.g. set of names for
>>> Geoff to test.
>>>
>>> Can we have couple proposals and test them in one go, so results are
>>> comparable?
>>>
>>> I've gathered these:
>>>
>>> kskroll-sentinel-is-ta-NNNN
>>> kskroll-sentinel-not-ta-NNNN
>>> is-ta--NNNN
>>> not-ta--NNNN
>>>
>>> I propose longer but more descriptive variant:
>>> kskroll-sentinel-dnssec-root-trust-anchor-key-trusted-yes-NNN
>>> kskroll-sentinel-dnssec-root-trust-anchor-key-trusted-no-NNNN
> 
> <no hats>
> 
> I personally like "kskroll-sentinel-is-ta-NNNN", or "is-ta--NNNN".
> 
> I really do not like
> "kskroll-sentinel-dnssec-root-trust-anchor-key-trusted-yes-NNN" as:
> $echo "kskroll-sentinel-dnssec-root-trust-anchor-key-trusted-yes-NNN" | wc -c
>    62


For what it is worth, I am with Warren, and particular like
"kskroll-sentinel-is-ta-NNNN".


-- Benno

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Benno J. Overeinder
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