Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-chain-query
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Wed, 11 November 2015 05:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-chain-query
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:29:30PM +0000, Tony Finch wrote: > Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote: > > > > With the current DNS protocol, a stub resolver can get all the records it > > > needs to validate a response in 1RTT, by sending multiple concurrent > > > queries for all the possible delegation points in the QNAME. > > > > I'm confused. How does the stub know all of those ahead of time? > > The possible delegation points are where the dots are in the QNAME. Except in the presence of CNAME (possibly via DNAME) records, which might mean that the client needs more records to validate multiple nodes in the DNS tree. So without nameserver assistance 1RTT via parallelism is not always possible. -- Viktor.
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dn… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Bob Harold
- [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dn… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Wiley, Glen
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-iet… Tim Wicinski