Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Thu, 30 April 2020 03:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 06:26:54PM -0400, John Levine wrote: > I think we will find that the assumption that TLD zone files are > delegation-only does not hold up very well in practice, so I am > wondering how useful a hack to technically enforce it would really be. There are indeed some TLDs which are not delegation-only. For example, DeNIC is known for directly serving some small (IIRC ~5 RRsets) child domains directly out of the .DE parent zone with no zone cut. But that's just an implementation detail, and could change in the future, if there was good reason to care. But there are also some large TLDs that are delegation-only, and could be a good place to get started. I don't see ".com" or ".net" on your list, most of those are brand domains without open registration, and they are legitimately free to delegate or not delegate whatever they want. > 54952 info > 28012 org > 6610 pro Pretty much the the only two or three with non-trivial numbers that matter on the list. > Some mystery names: These two patterns have been around for ages, used for some sort of automated monitoring, and don't matter. > monitor-nominet.abogado has address 127.0.0.1 > emt-ns1.emt-t-1070866640-1587743943997-2-ag.aarp has address 198.41.1.167 My .com zone processing code has for many years now being moving right past these: next if (m{^(emt-)?t-[^.]+-[^.]+-[^.]+-}io); I am sure ways can be found to handle these sentinels (not real child-domain delegations). For example, the spec could exclude domain names that start with "_" or "_sentinel". And the sentinel names could then all live there. -- Viktor.
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- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Daniel Migault
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Linus Nordberg
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Fun with draft-pwouters-powerbind Melinda Shore
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-pow… Tim Wicinski