Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones-04.txt

Ray Bellis <> Sat, 03 March 2018 22:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones-04.txt
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On 01/03/2018 12:37, wrote:

> Abstract: This document describes a method for automatic DNS zone
> provisioning among DNS primary and secondary nameservers by storing
> and transferring the catalog of zones to be provisioned as one or
> more regular DNS zones.

This version of the Catalog Zones draft has undergone significant
restructuring, in particular to separate out the mechanism by which
single-valued and multi-valued properties are specified.

This no longer reflects the current BIND implementation, but we have
internal consensus that this is a cleaner design which will appear in a
future version of BIND 9.

We are also considering how we might provide a more generic template
system such that multiple member zones can share a common set of
configuration properties rather than them being specified individually
for each member zone.

For this, we're likely to propose something using DNAME.  One option
would be that for a particular member zone tagged with identifying label
"foo" that we use:

     foo.zones.$CATZ IN PTR
     foo.zones.$CATZ IN DNAME <template-id>.templates.$CATZ

i.e. the DNAME is stored at the same owner name as that member zone's
entry in the list of member zones.

However a disadvantage of this is that it would be impossible to place
any zone-specific properties below this record because they'd be
obscured by the DNAME.

Consequently, the zone could either have all properties come from the
template, or they could all be specified individually as child nodes,
but the zone couldn't have both[*]

We're therefore seeking feedback on whether that's considered an
unreasonable limitation, or whether it's necessary to still be able to
provide zone-specific overrides of the values found in the template.


[*] in either configuration it's still expected that the server would
fallback to an additional set of catalog-zone wide defaults for any
property whose value is unspecified.