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Re: [DNSOP] .arpa

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Mon, 27 March 2017 00:54 UTC

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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:54:07 -0700
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
To: IETF dnsop Working Group <dnsop@ietf.org>, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] .arpa
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Hi,

On Mar 26, 2017, 5:37 PM -0700, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>, wrote:

> In no sense is the domain solely used or intended for PTR requests,

Is anyone claiming this? If so, that'd be really silly given the contents of the .ARPA zone is:

as112.arpa.
e164.arpa.
in-addr-servers.arpa.
in-addr.arpa.
ip6-servers.arpa.
ip6.arpa.
ipv4only.arpa.
iris.arpa.
uri.arpa.
urn.arpa.

Of those, only two are used for PTR requests.

> I particularly like that we don't actually have to do very much beyond
> note it, and ask IANA to operate a registry for it.

I'll admit I'm a bit confused: what would be in such a registry?

Truth be told, I sort of like the "home.arpa" idea -- seems to dodge a lot of layer 9 stuff (unless, of course, the whole point is to try to resolve layer 9 issues).

Regards,
-drc

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