Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 14 June 2020 19:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld
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In article <29A6A711-3641-4E9B-BF07-8D9E66056BCB@nic.br> you write:
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>I wonder what would have happened if this RFC was available a time before IDNs were defined, someone
>decided to use .xn and assume xn was only an internal use thing.

I suppose we would find out how much broken software looked for "xn"
rather than "xn--". I would be surprised if there were a lot of it.
Have you ever run into anything that mishandles xn.examp1e.com ?

Don't forget that RFC 5890 reserved all labels of the form
XX--anything for any XX as R-LDH labels, even though currently only
XN--anything is interpreted specially.