Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
Dan York <york@isoc.org> Fri, 21 February 2020 12:19 UTC
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From: Dan York <york@isoc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
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Benno, On Feb 21, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl<mailto:benno@NLnetLabs.nl>> wrote: I am interested to learn what the problem is that the customer wants to solve. Quoting from the email from Evan Hunt in this thread: "CNAME at the apex wasn't really the problem. Getting browsers to display content from the right CDN server was the problem." If there is a specific use case for CNAME in the APEX (ANAME), I am really interested to learn from this. Similar to Karl’s customers, I want to use domains name without any subdomains to point to a CDN address and have the appropriate CDN edge node respond. I had outlined my perspective in a draft last year: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-york-dnsop-cname-at-apex-publisher-view-01 What Evan says is true… it’s not so much that I “need” to have “CNAME at apex”. I just need some method that becomes widely available that allows web browsers (and other web endpoints) to go from “example.com<http://example.com>” to a CDN node. If HTTPSVC can do that, and browser vendors will implement it [1], then that use case can be satisfied. Dan [1] And, of course, to get “the DNS infrastructure” to allow domain registrants to get the HTTPSVC records updated with their DNS hosting operator, which often means upgrading those DNS operators to support the new record. But that is an issue with ALL of the various “new DNS record” solutions we’ve come up with. -- Dan York, Director, Web Strategy / Project Leader, Open Standards Everywhere<https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/open-standards-everywhere/> / Internet Society york@isoc.org<mailto:york@isoc.org> | +1-603-439-0024 | @danyork<https://twitter.com/danyork> [cid:image001.png@01D5D03B.DF736FF0] internetsociety.org<https://www.internetsociety.org/> | @internetsociety<https://twitter.com/internetsociety>
- [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc draf… Klaus Malorny
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Olli Vanhoja
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Eric Orth
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tommy Pauly
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Rob Sayre
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tommy Pauly
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Erik Kline
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Matthijs Mekking
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Klaus Malorny
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Matthijs Mekking
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Klaus Malorny
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Dan York
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Klaus Malorny
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Klaus Malorny
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Andrew M. Hettinger
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Olli Vanhoja
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Lanlan Pan
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Andrew M. Hettinger
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Dan York
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Lanlan Pan
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Anthony Eden
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Matthijs Mekking
- Re: [DNSOP] [External] status of the aname and sv… Andrew M. Hettinger
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc … Tony Finch