[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard
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Thread-Topic: [Ext] [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard
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As a process issue, I don't think that DNS64 can be moved to Internet Standard and at the same time add wording to it that says how it should or should not be used on the Internet. I also don't think RFC 6147 *has* to be moved to Internet Standard at the same time as other IPv6ish things are being moved up. Because of the significant amount of hesitancy shown, I don't think it is appropriate to move the standard up without a revision of its use and applicability statements. If those are accepted, it can be moved to IS a few years later. --Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standa… mohamed.boucadair
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… Scott Morizot
- [DNSOP] Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet St… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet St… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Brian E Carpenter
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… mohamed.boucadair
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… Chenhao Ma
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Ole Trøan
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving … Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … Nick Buraglio
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… Dan Wing
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… Ole Trøan
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving … Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] [Ext] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Int… mohamed.boucadair
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Gert Doering
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Tim Chown
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … Brian E Carpenter
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving … Warren Kumari
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DN… Mark Andrews
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DN… Mark Andrews
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: [Ext] Re: Re: Re: Re: Mov… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DN… Brian E Carpenter
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Michael Richardson
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: [Ext] Re: Re: Re: Re: Mov… Brian E Carpenter
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 (RFC… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … marka
- [DNSOP] (Concluded) RE: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to… mohamed.boucadair
- [DNSOP] Re: (Concluded) RE: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DNS64 … jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Moving DN… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: (Concluded) RE: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… Philipp Tiesel
- [DNSOP] Re: (Concluded) RE: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147… jordi.palet@consulintel.es