Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt> (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 05 September 2019 22:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt> (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC
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Oh, and a quick update -- someone poked me off-list to point out that
I should have updated the Last Call text to note that this doesn't get
published as an RFC directly, instead:
"An individual or a working group posts an Internet Draft containing
an explanation of the reason for the status change. The I-D is
discussed and iterated as usual for I-Ds. At some point, it is sent to
an appropriate AD to request publication. The AD creates a
status-change document, with an explanation that points to the I-D.
The I-D and the status-change are then last-called together, after
which the IESG evaluates and ballots on both. If the change is
approved, the content of the I-D is moved into the status-change
document, and the I-D is marked as "dead", having served its purpose."
-- https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/designating-rfcs-historic-2014-07-20/

They are right, I should have noted this... We very seldom do
status-changes to Historic[0], and so the process is somewhat
unfamiliar. This shouldn't change anyone's behavior, etc, but don't
expect to see this particular document show up as RFCxxxx.
Here endeth the process wonkery for the day...

W
[0]: This is, IMO, a separate issue...


On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 7:42 PM The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG
> (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'Moving DNSSEC Lookaside
> Validation (DLV) to Historic Status'
>   <draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt> as Informational RFC
>
>   Please note that this is primarily to support:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-dlv-to-historic
>   and should be read with that.
>
> We are using option 2 of
>    https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/designating-rfcs-historic-2014-07-20/
>
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-09-18. Exceptionally, comments may be
> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of
> the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>
> Abstract
>
>
>    This document obsoletes DNSSEC lookaside validation (DLV) and
>    reclassifies RFCs 4431 and 5074 as Historic.
>
>
>
>
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv/
>
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv/ballot/
>
>
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
>
>
>
>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf