Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Mon, 17 March 2014 15:42 UTC

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In message <87y50auqqf.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>, Florian Weimer writes:
> * Mark Andrews:
> 
> >>>    Another note is that the answer to the NS query, unlike the referral
> >>>    sent when the question is a full qname, is in the Answer section, not
> >>>    in the Authoritative section.  It has probably no practical
> >>>    consequences.
> >> 
> >> Most resolvers do not make NS queries, and some authoritative servers
> >> do not return useful data (or any data at all).  So using NS queries
> >> for zone cut discovery does not work reliably.
> >
> > Any resolver that is DNSSEC aware will make NS queries (whether
> > validating or not).
> 
> Really?  Where is this mentioned in the protocol RFCs?

RFC 3658
2.2.1.2.  Special processing when child and an ancestor share
          nameserver
 
> > Nameservers that fail to handle NS queries are broken.  More NS
> > queries would be good for the overall health of the DNS as it would
> > flush out the broken servers.
> 
> Sure, but in practice, no one wants to be the person who exerts this
> perssure on zone publishers.
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