Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> Tue, 20 December 2016 16:35 UTC

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On 20/12/2016 16:33, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> Counter-question: of what value is documenting this current practice?
> Anyone who is already using it can find the documentation for it from
> their software vendor. There is nothing here that really affects the
> rest of the DNS other than "there will be lies".

The document primarily covers BIND's behaviour.

It would be good if other implementations were completely compatible
with that, and this also forms the baseline for potential future
enhancements which could be under IETF change control.

Ray