Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"
Robert Edmonds <edmonds@mycre.ws> Tue, 20 March 2018 21:45 UTC
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From: Robert Edmonds <edmonds@mycre.ws>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"
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Paul Vixie wrote: > Joao Damas wrote: > > Camels are indeed great animals and they can be loaded until > > eventually one more insignificant straw breaks their back. I guess > > that is were Bert thinks the DNS is at now and I don’t completely > > disagree > > i was pretty horrified even before ECS. dnssec sentinels feels like friday > the 13th part 37. there were danger signs saying "don't go here, there's no > road, nothing to see, and no way back" and we ignored them. Speaking of being horrified, compare the growth rate on the graph on slide 2 in this presentation: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/28/session/11/contribution/55/material/slides/1.pdf With the growth rate on the graph in this article for the same time period: https://www.recode.net/2017/4/27/15413870/comcast-broadband-internet-pay-tv-subscribers-q1-2017 A hybrid resolution model that allows leaf queries for parts of the DNS to be resolved direct-to-authority at endpoints would be very helpful for some use cases (especially, CDNs) and could stall the insatiable growth in resolution capacity needed at centralized resolvers. Not to mention, such a model would provide a solid deprecation path for ECS. I also note most but not all of the stuff Bert is talking about in his slide deck are on the inter-server side of the protocol (resolver to authority). But there are also other DNS camels that have been slowly gestating in the browser world, e.g.: https://plus.google.com/+WilliamChanPanda/posts/FKot8mghkok https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1434852 -- Robert Edmonds
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