Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Mon, 03 March 2014 13:07 UTC

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From: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt
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On 3 Mar 2014, at 9:51, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:

> On 3/3/14, 9:25 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>> Warren makes a strong argument in favor of .alt I think.
> 
> yeah... anything that has the potential to result in additional leakage
> seems like a recipe for additional pain.

Well, except that the current proposal is to reserve (not delegate) ALT.

If we assume that leaks will happen, then they will hit the root servers and there's no opportunity to sink the queries anywhere else.

If we delegate ALT, then we have to decide where to. I can see this being contentious.


Joe