Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-qname-minimisation

"Niall O'Reilly" <niall.oreilly@ucd.ie> Fri, 09 January 2015 09:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-qname-minimisation
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  Thanks again, Mark.

At Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:35:22 +1100,
Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> And RFC 1034 also says follow the naming rules for the things you are
> putting in the DNS

  So it does.

> which people seem to want to ignore.

  All too often, and stubbornly.

> _foo.example is not a host name (or hostname) regardless of whether
> it has a A record or not.

  Indeed so; it doesn't satisfy RFC952.

> Similarly

  Eh?

> dk is not a hostname.

  Without citing a normative reference, you're leaving me to
  admire the Emperor's new clothes!

  I see that, according to RFC1178, "dk" is an undesirable choice of
  hostname.  Careful, but admittedly not exhaustive, searching in the
  Scriptures hasn't led me to discover any reason to accept that it's
  "not a hostname".

  Best regards,
  Niall O'Reilly