Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
"Peter van Dijk" <peter.van.dijk@powerdns.com> Fri, 13 April 2018 08:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
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Hello Suzanne, On 6 Apr 2018, at 23:49, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > We’re hearing that having an RFC will be helpful to promoting > implementation, and also that this draft may not be ready to be > advanced for publication because it doesn’t include implementation > experience. This is something the WG needs to comment on further, > because it seems substantive to me so it will have to be addressed one > way or another before we advance the document— but those inputs are > somewhat in disagreement. In WG context, not in draft context: I do not think these inputs are in disagreement. If a draft can find -zero- implementers that think the draft is a sufficiently good idea that they write an implementation during draft status, the draft is, most likely, a bad idea. > Editors: Please take “concern about a description of current > implementation status” as WGLC input, and consider what you might be > able to add to the draft to address it. > > WG vendors/implementers: Can folks who have implemented > kskroll-sentinel, or considered implementing it, please speak up on > your concerns/plans? Because of privacy concerns (currently raised in section 7 of the draft quite briefly), PowerDNS will not be implementing this protocol. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Warren Kumari
- [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-d… tjw ietf
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… tjw ietf
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for: draft-ie… Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Geoff Huston
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Ralph Dolmans
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Geoff Huston
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Ondřej Surý
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Job Snijders
- [DNSOP] on 'when to implement' (was: Re: Working … Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Joao Damas
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] on 'when to implement' (was: Re: Work… Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Job Snijders
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Joao Damas
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-12 神明達哉