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Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210531161502.GA3679@pepino> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JBoSTUUXLFOFp25y1oI5K6607o1loTr3m" X-Spam-Score-Int: -28 X-Spam-Bar: -- Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 07:00:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --JBoSTUUXLFOFp25y1oI5K6607o1loTr3m Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6yzzBbbhziAH0aOlp2gWaJqpF7WVMurYD"; protected-headers="v1" From: Shane Kerr To: dnsop@ietf.org Message-ID: <618cefb1-cc91-ba64-8959-0ffe92297991@time-travellers.org> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial References: <20210531161502.GA3679@pepino> In-Reply-To: <20210531161502.GA3679@pepino> --6yzzBbbhziAH0aOlp2gWaJqpF7WVMurYD Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------60C131B6AD47402E7E59AB77" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------60C131B6AD47402E7E59AB77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hugo, While I find it a pity that the consensus seems to be that just=20 including the serial instead of the entire SOA is the best way forward,=20 I don't strongly object, since it can indeed be useful for debugging as=20 proposed. Sorry if I missed earlier discussion, but if a query to a resolver=20 arrived with the option sent, why not let the resolver pass it along and = return the value? And maybe cache the value if desired? Or even use the=20 option with some or all queries upstream without being asked? Surely=20 being able to see the serial associated with records at a resolver could = also be useful? At the very least, maybe the draft should be agnostic towards=20 non-authoritative servers? So instead of: This EDNS option is aimed only to authorative servers for a zone. Resolvers and forwarders should ignore the option. It's only intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive). Maybe: This EDNS option is aimed only at authoritative servers for a zone. It's only intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive). Resolver and forwarder behavior is undefined. Cheers, -- Shane On 31/05/2021 18.15, Hugo Salgado wrote: > Dear group. > Thanks for the call for adoption. We the authors are already working > on -01 with the comments made a few weeks ago. I hope to send it in > the next days for your review/approval. >=20 > Hugo >=20 > On 10:26 28/05, Tim Wicinski wrote: >> All >> >> We had a lot of good discussion of this draft when it first came out, = and >> the chairs want to put up a call for adoption. >> >> If you have already stated adoption of this draft, we will count those= so >> there is no need to repeat yourself. >> >> >> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial >> >> The draft is available here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial/ >> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adopti= on by >> DNSOP, and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >> >> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, et= c. >> >> This call for adoption ends: 22 June 2021 >> >> Thanks, >> tim wicinski >> DNSOP co-chair >=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> DNSOP mailing list >> DNSOP@ietf.org >> 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