Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Wed, 26 September 2018 19:40 UTC
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From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel@ietf.org, Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>, Benno Overeinder <benno@nlnetlabs.nl>, DNSOP Chairs <dnsop-chairs@ietf.org>, dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 26 Sep 2018, at 12:07, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:16 AM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:12:08AM -0700, Warren Kumari wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:16 AM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for >>>> draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-15: Discuss >>>> >>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to >>>> all >>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut >>>> this >>>> introductory paragraph, however.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Please refer to >> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>>> >>>> >>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> DISCUSS: >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Thanks for preparing this document and mechanism; it is good to >>>> have >> more >>>> data about the expected impact of the root KSK roll. That said, I >> have two >>>> Discuss-worthy points, albeit both fairly minor. >>>> >>>> The first one may just be something that I missed, but does this >> document >>>> actually say anywhere that there needs to be a real zone with real >>>> configured A and/or AAAA records for the query names used for these >> tests? >>>> The Appendix sort-of-mentions it, but I feel like there needs to be >>>> a >>>> mention in the main body text. >>>> >>>> >>> No hats (OMG, everyone will see I'm going bald...) >>> >>> Ok, fair. This was actually a source of confusion when we first >>> started >>> discussing the document -- we explained it on-list / at mics / in >>> person, >>> but it became so well understood that we didn't notice that it is >>> not >>> actually specified in the document. I'll try figure out text. >> >> Thanks. >> >> It eventually became pretty clear to me from things like "return the >> A or >> AAAA response unchanged" that there was supposed to be a valid >> response >> provisioned so that it could be returned, but I don't want to rely on >> all >> readers making the same inference. >> >> > So I opened my editor to add text, and scrolled down to try figure out > where to add this. > "Section 4.3 - Test Procedure" seemed like a good spot -- and it > already > has this text: > > A query name containing the left-most label > "root-key-sentinel-not-ta-<key-tag-of-KSK-current>". This name MUST be > a > validly-signed. ***Any validly-signed DNS zone can be used for this > test.*** > A query name containing the left-most label > "root-key-sentinel-is-ta-<key-tag-of-KSK-new>". This name MUST be a > validly-signed. ***Any validly-signed DNS zone can be used for this > test.*** > > (emphasis mine). > > Does this perhaps address your concerns? It should not: Section 2.1 specifically says that the query must be for A or AAAA. --Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dn… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-iet… Joao Damas