Re: [DNSOP] meta issue: WG to discuss DNS innovation (was Re: draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00)

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 17 February 2014 18:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] meta issue: WG to discuss DNS innovation (was Re: draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00)
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On 2/17/14, 1:35 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:15 PM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>; wrote:
>> Given experiences, I have to wonder if the whole idea of a long-term working group just leads to dysfunction -- perhaps the IETF version of an echo chamber (or perhaps even inbreeding).  Perhaps a better approach would be to use something like DNSOP which has an operations bent is use to see if there are ideas/interest in particular topics that can drive the creation of working groups that focus on the specific DNS-related issues?
> Yup.   However, creating working groups is a pretty heavyweight process—I think that's what motivates the long-term model for protocols where frequent extensions are likely.   Possibly rotating working group chairs more frequently would work in such cases.
>

The two dnsext releated items we covered in DNSOP were EDNS0 options.  
Since OPT codes are now assigned by expert review, putting some of that 
discussion where the largest collection of DNS experts reside has some 
logic to it.

tim