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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-14.txt

Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com> Wed, 06 November 2019 14:54 UTC

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From: Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:54:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-14.txt
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 09:38, Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 06/11/2019 13:42, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> > I still have a few comments.  There were a few comments from my review
> > of -13 that weren't responded to in email, and haven't been updated in
> > the text, so I'm repeating them here.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> We sought advice from one of the Chairs as to whether in his reading
> such a significant restructuring of the document was warranted when only
> one participant was calling for it.
>

I'm not actually calling for a restructuring of the document.  I'm calling
for the structure of the document to be followed.  Cleaning up section 3 by
moving its tests to section 8 and clearly describing non-response problems
instead is just following the existing structure of the document.

I did leave it open for you to restructure the document if you wish, to
actually combine sections 3 and 8.

Perhaps this response will encourage others to speak up about whether they
think either of those things are important changes.  It's possible people
saw my review of -13 and didn't feel the need to comment since someone else
already had.

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