Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not only home residental networks ...
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not only home residental networks ...
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On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 20:29 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > > On 3 Sep 2017, at 22:51, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote: > > On 3 Sep 2017, at 14:38, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > Why would anyone tell you that “.local” would conflict when you > > > were supposed > > > to register a name *before* using it. > > > > Because some vendors gave bad advice in their documentation, > > particularly in examples. > > > > > If you are doing AD correctly you should be able to register you > > > machines wherever > > > they connect to the Internet and that requires a public > > > registration. > > > > And that is what Microsoft has suggested in all their documentation > > for many years. > However, Microsoft did encourage their customers to use .local names > for Active Directory domains for quite a long time - see for example > this link to the documentation for Windows Small Business Server > 2003. It isn't fair to only blame MS customers for choosing .local > domains. > https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747455(v=ws.10).aspx I would point out an analogous situation with documentation and addresses. The documentation that accompanied Sun Microsystems SunOS and Solaris used examples of IP address 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.3.4 and similar, now making those blocks toxic since that /8 was assigned to APNIC. IIRC, they also used names like .local and .test in some of their doco. This isn't just a Microsoft think (and I'm far FAR from a Microsoft apologist). Sometimes our tech writers do things they shouldn't when their crystal ball is cloud and we get stuck with the results. And I've dealt with far FAR worse. > Tony. > -- > f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at Regards, Mike -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (o) +1 706 850-8773 | mhw@WittsEnd.com /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (c) +1 678 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ ARIN whois: ARIN-MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xC0EB9675674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it!
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- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Måns Nilsson
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Måns Nilsson
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Michael H. Warfield
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
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