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Re: [DNSOP] on private use TLDS

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 28 November 2019 18:25 UTC

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From: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] on private use TLDS
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On Thursday, 28 November 2019 12:15:23 UTC Ted Lemon wrote:
> So let me get this straight: you want us to stay out of ISO’s sandbox by
> jumping right in to ICANN’s? ICANN has not promised never to delegate those
> domains, whereas ISO effectively has, so your reasoning doesn’t make sense.

ISO has other constituencies beyond IANA, and while they have promised not to 
"delegate" certain names, their private-use rules allow those names to be used 
by someone other than IANA.

IANA can be instructed by IETF to never delegate certain TLDs (like .ZZZ).

noting, i would prefer stronger mnemonic naming for this, like .PRIVATE

-- 
Paul

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