Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Wed, 02 August 2017 22:55 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:55:41 +1000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
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A possibly stupid random thought: is there a strong barrier in *all*
kernels which enforces 127.0.0.0/8 and ::1 to actually *have* to be
local?

The 240/4 problem is 5-6 lines of code in *some* UNIX. It wasn't in
any sense globally applied.

I suspect localhost is somewhat more strongly coded, but I did wonder
because Ted's suggestion that use of the literal IP address in either
family would the stronger 'keep it local' made me think: what if
somebody hand installed a route which somehow took it off-box?

I think proscriptive/definitive language over the FQDN/label localhost
in DNSSEC is probably still a good thing.  IETF is defining behaviours
for home.arpa in HOMENET which logistically fall into a very similar
bucket (for me at least) so its not like we can't chose to say what
behaviours we expect of a label.

-G

[DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"? Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… william manning
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Matthew Pounsett
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… George Michaelson
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
[DNSOP] Fwd: Status of "let localhost be localhos… william manning
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Erik Nygren
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Stuart Cheshire
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ray Bellis
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Peter van Dijk
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Warren Kumari
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John R Levine