Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com> Mon, 13 March 2017 05:35 UTC

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:35:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz
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Joel,

I'd be happy to see the document proceed under two conditions:  1) it
becomes a WG document, subject to IETF change control, and 2) that the
disclaimer requested back on 20170103 be added to the document. To refresh
the collective mind, here is the missing text:

applicability statement.

This draft is documents a process and method for intercepting DNS queries
and fabricating responses to redirect the querier into a walled garden or
enclave that is NOT part of the open Internet. Adoption and acceptance of
this draft is an acknowledgement that the IETF, the IAB and ISOC reject the
principles espoused at https://open-stand.org/about-us/principles/, in
particular article 3.  Collective Empowerment insofar as the evolution of
the DNS is concerned.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:52 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:

> On 3/10/17 5:07 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> > Once a document becomes a WG document the authors are required to
> > incorporate WG consensus.
> >
> > If this does not / is not happening, the chairs have the option /
> > responsibility to replace the authors with ones that do...
>
> If there's no consensus for advancing an altered or unaltered document
> then that's a problem; but not one that hasn't happened before. Consent
> is pert of concensus.
>
> > W
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 9, 2017, at 18:54, tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We’re going to go ahead and adopt it for DNSOP, with the intention of
> >>> resolving the concerns people expressed by keeping the status as
> >>> informational (not standards track) and making sure the cautions and
> >>> limitations the WG discussed on the use of RPZ are clear in the
> document.
> >>
> >> I don't understand how this works.
> >>
> >> The authors clearly stated the document will describe only what is
> currently implemented and they were
> >> not willing to make changes. How can this ever turn into a real WG
> document?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
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