[DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld

Geoff Huston <gih902@gmail.com> Wed, 16 April 2025 20:39 UTC

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Thank you Benno and Warren for your clarifications

I agree with Joe when he observers that "So it seems to me that the question of adoption is the same as the question for whether this domain should be added to the Special-Use Domain Name registry.".

And if this call for adoption is also a WG discussion on the inclusion of this label on the SUDN registry, then in supporting this call for adoption I'm also of the personal view that it meets the criteria for inclusion on this registry.


Geoff