Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt
Shumon Huque <shuque@gmail.com> Tue, 27 October 2015 02:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote: > On Monday, October 26, 2015 10:15:37 AM Ray Bellis wrote: > > On 26/10/2015 09:52, I wrote: > > > That's clear - what isn't perhaps, is what the RCODE should be, given > > > that this text is in a section with "Name Error" in its title. > > > > For what it's worth, I expect the answer to be NOERROR, but I think the > > text that lumps empty-non-terminals in with "name error" causes > > sufficient ambiguity and confusion that an errata may be in order. > > strong +1. > > names that don't exist can't have children. I agree, however I'm slightly amused that we are having this discussion in 2015. Is there anyone that is claiming that the response code for empty non-terminals should not be NOERROR. Yes, there are some CDNs and hosting providers that currently issue Name Error for empty non-terminals, but every one of them I've spoken to has positively acknowledged that this is a defect that they are planning to fix. If we need to provide a reference, RFC 4592, Section 2.2.2 has a pretty good treatment of empty non-terminals (updating 1034), that pretty definitively states that they exist, and thus their response code cannot be Name Error. Shumon.
- [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-0… fujiwara
- [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-0… fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Casey Deccio
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… P Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Roy Arends
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Roy Arends
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveu… Shumon Huque