Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC, additional special names & draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Thu, 27 February 2014 12:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC, additional special names & draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt
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Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>; wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:55, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>; wrote:
> >
> > And the moment you have a validating brower / app they *will* break.
>
> And this is a problem because... ?
>
> I doubt there will ever be validating browsers/apps for accessing CPE
> from the inside. They have no need for DNSSEC because everything's on
> the local net.

The problem occurs when common operating systems start shipping validating
resolvers, then users will not be able to browse to http://router.home to
configure their device.

Tony.
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