Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> Fri, 22 March 2019 18:26 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
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Thread-Topic: [Doh] [DNSOP] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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On 3/22/19, 3:53 AM, "Doh on behalf of Vittorio Bertola" <doh-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; wrote:

> letting each application pick its own default resolver, creates a fragmented mess of a network 

[JL] Troubleshooting also becomes potentially more complicated. I can't ask a user to run dig or nslookup and tell me what it says, in order to see what DNS response they got, and from what server. I may have to ask which app they used if the app varies from the OS, and then that app would need to have a relatively easy way to run a test query and show the results. To the extent that this is an IoT device, USB-powered hardware 'thing', or some other non-PC/mobile/tablet with a somewhat limited GUI or no GUI, then it becomes more difficult.