Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-01.txt

Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz> Thu, 21 June 2018 06:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-01.txt
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On 21.6.2018 03:15, Shumon Huque wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:15 PM Mukund Sivaraman <muks@mukund.org
> <mailto:muks@mukund.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     There also seems to be a scalability problem with SIG(0) in that
>     generating the signature involves a public-key operation per DNS
>     message.
> 
>     For a zone transfer of the root zone from F, the AXFR contains 79
>     messages in the TCP continuation:
> 
>     ;; XFR size: 22554 records (messages 79, bytes 1335768)
> 
> 
> Yup, I realize that. That was one fo the reasons is I mentioned that
> SIG(0) can
> also sign IXFR messages if they are available from the server, which could
> significantly reduce the performance impact. Thinking about it more now
> though,
> I recall that the current root zone management scheme isn't that
> conducive to
> incremental transfer, since the zone is signed monolithically twice a
> day (IIRC).
> 
> Anyway, I'm not really advocating for SIG(0). I'm persuaded that it isn't
> optimal. I was just surprised that the draft mentions other potential
> solutions, 
> but didn't mention this one - perhaps it should for completeness.
> 
> Longer term, perhaps the best solution will end up being XFR using DNS over 
> TLS (or HTTPS) with server authentication. Yes, I realize that authoritative
> servers are not yet the targets of those protocols, but it's probably
> only a matter
> of time.

HTTPS over TLS is what we did for root zone import into Knot Resolver's
cache (from version 2.3 onwards but beware, there are little bugs which
were fixed in 2.4 - to be released soon).

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Petr Špaček  @  CZ.NIC