Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt> (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 05 September 2019 21:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt> (Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status) to Informational RFC
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On Thursday, 5 September 2019 20:48:34 UTC Paul Wouters wrote:
> [DLV] was very useful at the beginning, especially before the root was 
signed.
> I used it to get DNSSEC from a number of TLDs and could not have done that
> without DLV.

me too. if the first production use of dnssec had been the day .COM was 
signed, then deployment would be even less advanced today than it is.

> It served its purpose well, and it should be formally retired and this
> document should get published.

sam weiler argued unsuccessfully that trust should not be required to follow 
the delegation path, and with a decade or more of perspective i can see that 
he was right. however, DLV as specified and implemented would not be the 
mechanism i'd propose if non-hierarchical trust had to scale. right now 
private distribution of static trust anchors is working as well as it has to.

-- 
Paul