[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com> Thu, 04 July 2024 01:40 UTC
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Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:39:59 +0800
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I appreciate the reminder. It's best not to mix them. I've requested a timeslot for NS selection in the DNSOP session at IETF120. Davey On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:19 PM Ben Schwartz <bemasc@meta.com> wrote: > Hi Davey, > > To clarify, the "DNS Load Balancing" side meeting will not be concerned > primarily with nameserver selection. Instead, the topic of the side > meeting will be about using DNS to perform load balancing of other services > and protocols. > > I think this draft's term ("Nameserver Selection") is good, and we should > use that to distinguish it from "DNS Load Balancing". > > There is certainly some overlap between these notions (as each can be used > to implement the other in some fashion), but I would prefer to let both > topics mature separately for now. > > --Ben > ------------------------------ > *From:* Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2024 2:47 AM > *To:* dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org> > *Subject:* [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt > > Hi folks, I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection > topics. Our co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research > findings and best practices in this field, and made some recommendations > for developers on secure > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender > You have not previously corresponded with this sender. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > Hi folks, > > I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection topics. Our > co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research findings and > best practices in this field, and made some recommendations for developers > on secure and robust NS selection algorithms. Comments are welcome. > > Davey > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 2:19 PM > Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt > To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org> > > > Internet-Draft draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt is now available. > > Title: Secure Nameserver Selection Algorithm for DNS Resolvers > Authors: Fenglu Zhang > Baojun Liu > Linjian Song > Shumon Huque > Name: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt > Pages: 18 > Dates: 2024-07-02 > > Abstract: > > Nameserver selection algorithms employed by DNS resolvers are not > currently standardized in the DNS protocol, and this has lead to > variation in the methods being used by implementations in the field. > Recent research has shown that some of these implementations suffer > from significant security vulnerabilities. This document provides an > in-depth analysis of nameserver selection utilized by mainstream DNS > software and summarizes uncovered vulnerabilities. Furthermore, it > provides recommendations to defend against these security and > availability risks. Designers and operators of recursive resolvers > can adopt these recommendations to improve the security and stability > of the DNS. > > The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection/ > > There is also an HTMLized version available at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00 > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at: > rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list -- i-d-announce@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to i-d-announce-leave@ietf.org >
- [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-sel… Davey Song
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns… Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns… Peter Thomassen
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhan… Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhan… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns… Davey Song
- [DNSOP] Re: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-sele… Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] Re: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-sele… Shumon Huque