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Re: [DNSOP] [homenet] My assessment of .homenet as described during the WG session yesterday.

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 30 March 2017 18:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [homenet] My assessment of .homenet as described during the WG session yesterday.
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:54:50 PM GMT Brian Dickson wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> When I say, "never reaches the roots", this is what I mean:
> Resolution of "example.<homenet-label>" is, by design, intercepted by
> homenet resolvers, and never reaches the outside world.
> Do you concur with this statement?
> 
> ...

i'm not mark, but i'd like to speak on a related topic.

by design, queries that result in RFC 1918 addresses, and queries for RFC 1918 
PTR names, were to be intercepted by local resolvers.

let me know if you can't access DNS-OARC's DITL archives, which will show you 
how prominent both kinds those queries loom in actual root name service load.

i predict that foo.bar.<homenetlabel> will do likewise, whatever its design. 
this is the one saving grace in asking for a real root zone delegation: we can 
add an NS pointing to localhost, and try to get subsequent queries to go to 
heck rather than to the root servers.

vixie

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