Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a new record type: SNI
"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 19 February 2017 15:25 UTC
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:24:59 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a new record type: SNI
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> The reason to allow non-empty RDATA is to support servers that serve > multiple multi-domain certificates from a single IP address, dispatched by > SNI. This is common on CDNs and other large internet serving systems. Oh, OK, that's helpful. So the use case is a web server that serves a zillion domains, with the domains grouped into clusters that share a certificate. For each cluster, you pick one of the names as the cover name, and the SNI points to that name. The cover name doesn't have to be in the DNS, but if it's not, that makes it stick out like a sore thumb. Passive DNS on the server's IP address will reveal all of the server's names, and probes on those names to get the certs will reveal which names are in which cluster, so all SNI reveals is which names are the cover names. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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- Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a new record type: SNI John Levine
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