Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only

Patrick Mevzek <mevzek@uniregistry.com> Tue, 11 August 2020 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only
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On 30/07/2020 16:55, Patrick Mevzek wrote:
> - have the registry let the domain be deleted and then have domainB be 
> broken (which it is already in a way since the delegations to those 
> nameservers can be explicitly made broken; but the difference is between 
> registrar A breaking registrar B stuff, or the registry breaking 
> registrar B stuff).
You may have seen Afilias announcement yesterday about glue records
(as a consequence of the discussion here maybe?), with a public version 
at 
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20200811-afilias-to-protect-tlds-against-potential-orphan-glue-exploits/

It boils down to the above, that is removal of current glue records even 
if that breaks other domains using them currently.
Registrars have only a few day to mitigate this.

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Patrick Mevzek