Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-algorithm-update-05.txt> (Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC) to Proposed Standard

"Peter van Dijk" <peter.van.dijk@powerdns.com> Mon, 04 March 2019 15:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-algorithm-update-05.txt> (Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC) to Proposed Standard
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Hi Warren,

On 4 Mar 2019, at 16:23, Warren Kumari wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:13 AM Peter van Dijk 
> <peter.van.dijk@powerdns.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As this pertains to a section that will apparently be removed for
>> publication, only posting it here on dnsop@ for historical reasons:
>>
>>
> So, RFC7942 (the one about "The Implementation Status" section) says 
> that
> this section should contain a note asking for it to be removed (and 
> even
> includes boilerplate to copy and paste) -- this document instead says 
> "The
> following table contains the status of support in the open-source DNS
> signers and validators in the current released versions as of the time
> writing this document." which implies it will be left in the document. 
> I
> personally think that this is good / helpful, but am not sure how the 
> rest
> of the IESG will feel about this...

I always found the removal a very unhelpful idea. A different draft 
comes to mind where the implementation section mentioned the ways in 
which almost every implementation, consistently, deviated from the 
draft, which would be very useful information to future implementors!

I indeed also noticed that this draft lacked that note, but Paul Wouters 
replied this via Twitter:

letoams: @oerdnj @Habbie ohh. well that whole section will be cut anyway 
before RFC :) If we do another rev based on IETF LC, I will update it 
<https://twitter.com/letoams/status/1101136424361955329>

> As of 28-Feb-2019 14:02 I see pdns-4.2.0-beta1 available for download, 
> so I
> think that doing what Peter requests is fine.
>
> So, my plan is to 1: ask the authors to please swap the Y to an N as 
> below
> and 2: progress the document with the hope that this section will 
> survive
> the publication process.
>
> The March telechats are often really full - ADs who are leaving the 
> IESG
> try and get old / stuck work finished and off their plate - and so 
> this
> would likely only show up on the 2019-04-11 telechat -- so if anyone 
> really
> objects to this being (attempted to be) left in, please shout.

If it turns out the section is going to be removed before publication, 
then of course, don’t bother with the change. If the section will 
survive, and it is felt that this small change will hold up publication, 
then please also do not bother.

Otherwise, if it turns out we can easily get this change in, please do.

Kind regards,
-- 
Peter van Dijk
PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/