Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-swild-rr-type-00.txt

Mukund Sivaraman <muks@isc.org> Wed, 16 August 2017 06:38 UTC

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:08:43 +0530
From: Mukund Sivaraman <muks@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-swild-rr-type-00.txt
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:29:56PM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote:
> 
> 
> Mukund Sivaraman wrote:
> ...
> > 
> > Alexa Top domains and DNSSEC:
> > 
> > 24 / 500 top domains (4.8%)
> > 20548 / 1 million top domains (2.05%)
> > 
> > (12 years after introduction of 403{3,4,5})
> 
> we should give up.
> 
> or we shouldn't.
> 
> not a mixture.

I'm not saying we should give up.. but it's going to be a while before
we get to an utopia of maximal DNSSEC deployment. In the meantime, there
are practical problems that need mitigation.

		Mukund