Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-thomassen-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-02.txt

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 05 November 2021 00:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-thomassen-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-02.txt
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It appears that Paul Wouters  <paul@nohats.ca> said:
>I've read the draft, and it is an interesting idea. Some thoughts I had:
>
>- Is it really needed to do hashing? Do we really expect domain names to
>   hit the 63 or 255 limit ? 

Probably not.  There was also some thought that this makes it harder for
tourists to guess the delegated zone names, not sure if anyone would care.

>- I would like to see some text on removing the records too once the
>   child gained its DS record.

That really needs to be about scaling issues.  If your NS serves three
zones and you leave in the _boot records, who cares.  But there are
NS that serve three million zones and I think we would all like to
avoid long useless NSEC walks.

>- Should it be explicitly noted that in-bailiwick domains are not
>   supported?

Yes, I thought that was in there already.  I did some counts in TLD
files and found that in practice very few 2LDs use in-bailiwick NS.
We should document it but it's not a big deal.

>- It puts a constraint of the nameserver being in a zone that is DNSSEC
>   enabled. This is currently not required (though very often the case
>   anyway)

The point of this is to do a DNSSEC bootstrap that is fully DNSSEC
validated.  If the _boot record doesn't have to be signed, you might
as well just use the CDS from the child server.

R's,
John