[DNSOP] Breakfast Meeting: Deployment Challenges / Barriers to IDN - IEA

<nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com> Thu, 20 October 2016 17:02 UTC

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Subject: [DNSOP] Breakfast Meeting: Deployment Challenges / Barriers to IDN - IEA
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Guys,
I have seen some interest in this group around IDN.
We wanted to have a discussion in Seoul of "Deployment Challenges / Barriers to IDN - IEA" so that we could start documenting them and building a core group to carry on with this work.


This is an important issue for people who want to have email addresses in Hindi, Swahili, etc.  There is also much to discuss about the challenges of using domain names in non-English languages.

You may want to look at a draft that is the starting point of some of this work:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-elkchow-iea-deploy/?include_text=1
We will also be working on a document "Use Cases of Email Addresses".  Email addresses are used as "identities" in a number of instances.  For shopping, government, email lists, etc.  We may want to discuss this.

We plan to have a breakfast meeting at 8:00am Korea time on Thursday, November 17, 2016.  Remote access will be provided.   Room TBD as of now.


Please let me know if you are interested in participating in this discussion either live or remotely.  Replying to me unicast is just fine or on the list.  Whichever you prefer.

You may also wish to subscribe to the IMA@IETF.ORG email list, if you want to follow some of the discussions around these topics.
 Thanks,
Nalini ElkinsInside Products, Inc.www.insidethestack.com(831) 659-8360