Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt

Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> Sat, 15 March 2014 14:56 UTC

Return-Path: <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432041A0279 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fsE2KpIangug for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com (mail-qg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733021A0264 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id z60so11119916qgd.8 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:19 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=6hoYnMsZp81xczytC6DBmxqZzj7eajHpxhAaz5P9aZs=; b=065WCsTWdQK/EAW8WbGH34iNILzyB4rIVB9D9arOCbZalYkllryMBNBFeJEpeXd75g iVAMPjB5YW2/rEMw8HM5U77mLo0Ach3sC1qn1s5wXbkAXGPTaX3RUvDzvokZFSs9v/AC txapq8EKOmsvoxR8VSSq6RRlLhR0vXCTNqc4nxpnfcmFbM1wB1MlW800KTnddxviAJI+ KE0WZI5zKZ85aLtEzM+Cuq7fpqZAW3cDTxzhJrM7O+CAy1praaVy+2zuOFK2PdmPcpY+ uM8qZHcOyc71A+1KGuxRY7P+bRACi+11RRqgrQrsJ0yoNbn02jrm1SdEwRz1hoJO9W0B OizQ==
X-Received: by 10.140.92.6 with SMTP id a6mr15893588qge.34.1394895379075; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-24-63-89-87.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [24.63.89.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b30sm12807182qge.21.2014.03.15.07.56.16 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\))
From: Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4A4037E7-875C-4D27-A906-00ACA3C8945D@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 10:56:17 -0400
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <FF9B816E-E504-4571-A755-6D2FB77832F4@gmail.com>
References: <D0AC0015-63C3-4C03-A8D0-888C435D2775@virtualized.org> <20140226100311.E73CA1069B39@rock.dv.isc.org> <8FEAF0FC-2AC3-4F39-9825-7068AAA6E40D@hopcount.ca> <CAHw9_iJa_OhzHVCQ4L0Aj+m=zAp6w=mJpAV-_ueh9iukhb3bnA@mail.gmail.com> <20140303102535.6f276963@quill> <531450A1.8010507@bogus.com> <917146C3-BC38-4D10-AA14-C3B7A02B1193@hopcount.ca> <CAHw9_iJ0Ymn0bUi3yZBLLtwVK_WOj_y13jNDiPj86ya5ZvUEng@mail.gmail.com> <79C0B6D6-8192-4DAB-B4B7-218E05EEB3BE@hopcount.ca> <CAHw9_iKRxYs23dMxd3pLJduW_VGXg67TwgL63DpJdQtUf9MGug@mail.gmail.com> <20140306143634.GA5102@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> <CAHw9_iL8RLtkb6pBvgLXUyKUtBOQ5jm3fGn_iviyRBXgks_L5A@mail.gmail.com> <4A4037E7-875C-4D27-A906-00ACA3C8945D@gmail.com>
To: Tim Wicinsku <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510)
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/mQBH9yHlKhmEr4dwc_6VSoT_H3c
Cc: Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>, Norbert Bollow <nb@bollow.ch>, "dnsop@ietf.org WG" <dnsop@ietf.org>, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:56:28 -0000

(No hat)
On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Tim Wicinsku <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:38:14PM +0000,
>>> Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote
>>> a message of 39 lines which said:
>>> 
>>>> Which is why I think that some of this involves us[0] talking to
>>>> ICANN and explaining the reason / purpose for ALT, and playing nice.
>>> 
>>> OK, so we just have to find people who accept to devote the next N
>>> years of their life to a boring and unrewarding task, full of meetings
>>> and thick reports, with lawyers and politicians. You've found someone?
>>> :-)
>> 
>> Well, I go to all the ICANN meetings already, so...
>> 
> 
> And successfully defended a challenge from my employer's legal department to send me to ICANN. While I consider it a win though I think as WG chair I may need to go if it would help resolve this issue 

No need for anything rash. Several DNSOP regulars are already sentenced to ICANN meetings, including myself. And given that ICANN does not currently have any mechanism for even entertaining a new TLD application of any kind, there's little point in going to an ICANN meeting to lobby for one. 

Let's do our own homework on this, first. I think TIm and I owe the group an attempt at a summary of the discussion we had in London and on the mailing list, and possible ways forward.


Suzanne