Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zone for sinking of special-use TLDs" ?
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 19 October 2016 22:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zone for sinking of special-use TLDs" ?
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In message <alpine.OSX.2.11.1610191826500.41072@ary.local>, "John R Levine" wri tes: > >> So a cache stub that provides unsigned answers to .local and .onion > >> queries is just fine. If the client treats that as SERVFAIL or > >> whatever it does with unverified answers, that's fine too. > > > > SERVFAIL is a temporary error. > > NXDOMAIN is a permanent error which is cachable. > > > > SERVFAIL is not "fine". > > Hmmn. Keeping in mind that these responses are sent by the cache, could > you explain what "cacheable" means in this context? Applications can, and some do, cache responses. > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [as112-ops] Future of "Using DNAME in… Aleksi Suhonen
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine