Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wouters-sury-dnsop-algorithm-update

Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec> Tue, 28 February 2017 22:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption draft-wouters-sury-dnsop-algorithm-update
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> On 28 Feb 2017, at 21:35, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, Roy Arends wrote:
> 
>> Since the last update of this draft, a full collision has been found.
>> 
>> Do the authors intend to update the draft to state that SHA1 SHOULD NOT be used for DNSSEC signing (DNSKEY algorithm 5,6,7) and for DNSSEC Delegation (DS and CDS algorithm 1) ?
> 
> That seems a bit dramatic to this author :)
> 
> We can't stuff PDF prefixes into this,

We don’t need to.

> there are a lot less bytes
> for an attacker to play with.

A CNAME chain will give you plenty of bytes to futz with. 

> 
>> Please also refrain from using MUST- SHOULD+ and SHOULD-.
> 
> For this SHA1 case or in general?

In general.

> I'd say we could update the DNSSEC
> Signing entry from MUST- to SHOULD NOT

Good. That is exactly my request.

> but I would leave SHA1 for
> DNSSEC validation at MUST-.

I’d say you have to update that as well to SHOULD NOT.

> There is a need to move people away from SHA1,

Yes, there is.

Roy