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Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-00.txt

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Sat, 29 November 2014 00:19 UTC

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> Andrew Sullivan <mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
> Friday, November 28, 2014 3:22 PM
> The case you describe is "consensual", because you can change it. A
> non-consensual case would be the one where all traffic to port 53 at
> anything other than the operator's resolver is blocked.

for exactness, we should have terms that distinguish between "use our
resolver or fail" and "our policy routing captures all of your outbound
dns and directs it to our resolver". both are "blocked" but differently so.

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Paul Vixie

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