Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 09 July 2015 01:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection
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> = Sec 2 =
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> "Technical personnel trained in the operation of DNS servers MUST
>    confirm that a failure is due to misconfiguration"
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> s/MUST/must/ - seems odd to put a normative requirement on people to do
> something in people land

Fair 'nuff. We had some discussions on this, but there wasn't really
any strong consensus.
I've made the edit and posted in Github -
https://github.com/wkumari/draft-livingood-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors


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> = Sec 4 =
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> "The lifetime MUST NOT exceed a week. "
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> Would be good to provide the motivation for where this number comes from.

This number comes from Evan.... :-)

Less flippantly, it is in this email:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg13004.html  I
don't think that we have a really good motivation for a week, other
than that is feels sort of like a good, human scale timeframe to
recheck on things. We really want there to be a limit on the lifetime,
a week felt right... but, I still like "because Evan said so..."

Are you OK with leaving it unmotivated[0], because there isn't really
a good motivation?

W
[0]: :-)






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