Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>

Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> Sat, 31 October 2015 18:45 UTC

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From: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>
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This is a good suggestion. I support it.

Mehmet

On Saturday, October 31, 2015, Richard Lamb <richard.lamb@icann.org> wrote:

> Given that there are least three implementations based on this draft in
> widespread use, IMHO, I believe this draft should move forward as is.  As
> mentioned below, a stable reference would be useful for implementers like
> myself. -Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-bounces@ietf.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
> W.C.A. Wijngaards
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 1:53 AM
> To: dnsop@ietf.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:
> <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>
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> Hi,
>
> On 05/10/15 23:42, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > First, thanks to the engaging on this.
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2015, at 5:20 PM, "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps it's time to sit back and wait for others here to express an
> >> opinion.
> >
> > I'd like to hear opinions from others in the WG with an operational
> > interest in the DNSSEC root trust anchor.
>
> It documents a procedure we implemented, and a stable reference would be a
> good thing.
>
> > Does this document meet a need you have? If so, how well does it meet
> > the need, and what would it take (if anything) for the document to
> > meet that need more effectively?
>
> Unbound implements the draft in open source, in its own command-line tool
> 'unbound-anchor'.  It combines a compiled-in root-anchor, with
> RFC5011 rollover and this draft.  At the first start it has failover over
> from the initial anchor to the next option, and this draft is the
> fallback.  On subsequent invocations it keeps state, a rolling anchor that
> it keeps track of.  If RFC5011 tracking fails, it uses this draft to fetch
> the xml file with the new key.  The tool is organisation-agnostic and can
> also be configured to perform the same mechanics in another environment
> (eg. test environments).
>
> Best regards, Wouter
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